SJ Police Union: ‘Nothing will Change’ with AB 392’s Passage

Assembly Bill 392, which would update the standard for police to use deadly force from when “objectively reasonable” to “necessary,” passed the state Senate and now awaits the governor’s signature. If it becomes law, it would make California’s police use-of-force thresholds one of the highest in the nation.

Gov. Gavin Newsom is expected to sign the bill, which he described back in May as a way to “help restore community trust in our criminal justice system.”

While proponents hail the proposed legislation as a momentous step towards ramping up police accountability, the San Jose Police Officers’ Association contends otherwise.

“For police officers in San Jose, nothing will change,” Tom Saggau, spokesman for the local cop union, says. “Absolutely nothing will change.”

And to Saggau, that’s just fine, because he believes existing deadly force standards are more than adequate. The original bill would have held police officers criminally liable if they violated the law and required police officers to use de-escalation tactics. But it was amended to garner support from police unions that initially opposed AB 392.

So, the union Saggau represents can breathe a huge sigh of relief. This version, he says, “is not going to put police officers in jail for simply doing their jobs.”

“Now [we have] de-escalation?,” he continues. “San Jose, Los Angeles and San Francisco Police Departments have been doing it for decades.”

Police reform advocates are less pleased with the latest iteration of the bill, which they consider effectively useless. Black Lives Matter and Silicon Valley De-Bug withdrew their sponsorships for the bill once it was amended to the point that they felt it no longer contained any meaningful legislative fix.

“It has no teeth,” says Laurie Valdez, whose partner Antonio Guzman Lopez was fatally shot by San Jose State police officers several years ago. “They completely took out the de-escalation language. So it would not have prevented Antonio’s death.”

The killing of Guzman Lopez, which authorities ruled justified, left Valdez a single mom with a young son and teen daughter to care for.

“I sacrificed,” Valdez says of her efforts supporting earlier version of the legislation. “And then for them to weaken it? They didn't even hear my son when he spoke at some of the hearings. It fell on deaf ears.”

The term “necessary” is too ambiguous, according to Valdez. It leaves too much room for the officer’s interpretation. And she believes that there needs to be strict language for de-escalation—language that had been removed from the initial draft as seen below.

Feb. 6 version of AB 392 stated: “A peace officer shall, however, attempt to control an incident through sound tactics, including the use of time, distance, communications, tactical repositioning, and available resources, in an effort to reduce or avoid the need to use force whenever it is safe, feasible, and reasonable to do so.”

But Assemblyman Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento), the co-author of the bill, assures that it will lead to changes on the ground.

“The intention of this bill is to add a layer of transparency and accountability that will result in more focus on de-escalation tactics and provide courts with more clarity over when use of deadly force is needed,” he said in an email.

This bill follows a series of reform efforts aimed at holding police accountable for fatal shootings and other forms of force. In 2018, AB 748 and SB 1421 were signed to grant public access to video, audio and personnel files involving fatal officer involved shootings. And San Jose State University police have since released the body cam video of the fatal officer involved shooting of Valdez’s partner.

Law enforcement lobbyists and police unions urge caution, however, lest reform advocates swing the pendulum too far. “They believe that if you just prosecute more police officers, things will just improve,” Saggau says.

But he believes that organizations like the ACLU and Black Lives Matter get so hung up on trying to put officers behind bars, that they overlook the root causes of fatal officer-involved shootings: mental illness and chronic homelessness.

“That’s not the tragedy folks want to talk about,” Saggau says. “But that’s the bread-and-butter, root cause issue.”

To his point, over 40 percent of suspects in officer involved fatal shootings in Santa Clara County from 2015 to 2019 suffered from mental illness. That’s 17.5 percent higher than the national average, according to a review of the Washington Post Fatal Force Database.

As the largest city in Santa Clara County, San Jose accounts for more than 70 percent of all officer-involved fatal shootings in the county. And officer-involved fatal shootings have decreased from nine cases to two from 2015 to 2018.

But AB 392 won’t change the way the San Jose Police Department operates, according to Saggau. Instead, a dueling bill, SB 230, will provide training for police officers to deal with people with physical and mental disabilities.

Protect California, a police lobbying group backed by cop unions throughout the state,  has launched an aggressive campaign in favor of SB 230.

Over the past month or so, the group has distributed flyers to legislators in Sacramento rebutting the ACLU’s arguments. While Lizzie Buchen, a legislative advocate for ACLU of Northern California, claimed that California police officers kill people at a rate of 37 percent higher than the national per capita average, for example, Protect California countered that California falls 5.43 percent below the national per-capita average using WaPo’s Fatal Force Database.

Buchen has also labeled the trend of fatal police shootings as an “epidemic,” but Protect California says there has been a 40 percent decrease in fatal officer involved shooting incidents in California since 2015—going from 190 to 114 incidents from 2015 to 2018.

“They use extremely misleading, factually and mathematically data,” Saggau says. “It’s trending better. So the whole foundation of their bill is gutted with simple math.”

But Valdez bats away the law enforcement lobby’s arguments as spin, and says she worries that the police-backed SB 230 will only undermine AB 392.

“Once the police union backed off, saying, ‘we don’t like it but we can live with it,’ that says it in itself,” she tells San Jose Inside. “They will live with it because they know their bill SB 230 is going to totally reverse it.”

Nicholas Chan is a journalist who covers politics, culture and current events in Silicon Valley. Follow him on Twitter at @nicholaschanhk.


  1. > Gov. Gavin Newsom is expected to sign the bill, which he described back in May as a way to “help restore community trust in our criminal justice system.”

    “Community trust in our criminal justice system?”

    30,000 car break-ins every year in San Francisco.

    Catch and release.

    Open borders, Sanctuary cities. MS-13. Opioid epidemic. Fentanyl.

    Kate Steinle. Bambi Larsen.

    Prop 47. Prop 57.

    My level of trust in “our criminal justice system” is low.

  2. Lets see, when we find out the this garlic festival shooter was mentality disturbed or on drugs are you all going to turn on the Gilroy PD for shooting this mad dog down in less than a minute. By the way good shooting GPD!

    • Hey Gunn. The guy killed himself. Stop pimping lies/stories of superhero cops. Gilroy cops are a bunch of incompetent buffoons . Cops job is to make sure people get from point A to point B safely. Gilroy police get a big Fat F. They failed.

  3. SB1421 is changing transparency and police accountability more than any law. It was fought by every police association in the state. And yes, the Gilroy shooter came from a home of domestic violence dating back to his grandfather who was a Santa Clara County Supervisor. The DA’s office has protected police officers, judges and lawyers who abuse their own family members. We have good police officers who follow their training and protect our communities. But when any officer is silent and complicit in the face of excessive force, or toxic cultures that harm in secret, then they cross the line to the dark side and we will continue to shine the light.

  4. You can’t tell cops they can only shoot back without telling crooks they get to shoot first. That’s the problem the law ran into. Weber and the families might tell you the truth, but most likely would lie. They wanted a 100% entirely defensive system where the officer had to actually get shot to prove the use of force was necessary. This standard would cause a workplace change by law enforcement to minimize exposure to the attendant 15-to-life sentence. That workplace change was a default to enforcement of laws after they have been violated, and the elimination of patrol (crime prevention). Turning the police response into a fire department response (from the station to the call and then back to the station) was unpreventable because although they write the laws and teach the classes they don’t drive the police car or do the work. I’m retired now, but if this law had passed in it’s original form you would have only seen me when I arrived….after the situation was over….just to tell you “call us if he comes back.”

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