Santa Clara Co. DA Jeff Rosen Cracks Down on EDD Fraud

Santa Clara County prosecutors are cracking down on people—and particularly inmates—who’ve scammed taxpayers out of a fortune in ill-gotten unemployment benefits.

Over the past two months, officials have identified tens of thousands of incarcerates throughout the state—including serial killer Cary Stayner—who managed to bilk hundreds of millions of dollars in payments from the California Employment Development Department (EDD).

In the South Bay, authorities say, it’s being perpetrated by organized rings involving people locked up in local jails.

The DA’s office cites a case in which just one inmate stole $12 million from the EDD.

Though no charges have been filed against the suspect, Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeff Rosen—like his peers throughout the state—said he’s assembled a team to tackle the problem and expects charges to be filed soon.

Benefits fraud is punishable by up to three years in state prison and fines of $20,000.

Inmates are legally barred from receiving EDD benefits. But authorities say they’re getting around that by working with co-conspirators who use the inmate’s identifying information to submit EDD applications.

To prevent the EDD from finding out that the applicant is incarcerated, the DA says the accomplices receive the payments and then transfer them back to inmates.

“To those who have abused the system during this pandemic: you will be caught and pay the price from stealing from the pockets of the needy,” Rosen said in an announcement about the enforcement effort. “Fraudulent unemployment claims deny benefits to those who are legally entitled to receive them and who truly are in need.”

25 Comments

  1. If just ONE incarcerated felon can swindle $12 million dollars from the state just who the Eff is in charge?

    So, we are going to keep him in prison for three more tears and fine him $20k?

    Well, that’ll teach him.

    Smirk

  2. Incarcerated persons are entitled to the 1200 stimulus although it is apparent fraud was committed🤷🏽‍♀️

  3. In three years, the guy will have scammed another $36 million and it’ll be the second term of the Newsom administration. Why not let him out with $2000 and maybe he’ll die of covid after a restaurant meal?

  4. OMG!
    Is Rosen serious?
    You have a lazy, greedy, incompetent government bureaucracy that has no incentive to responsibly do it’s job and no accountability when it doesn’t, and he considers the opportunists who always have been and always will be there to capitalize on the careless handling of the peoples’ money to be the problem? Get real.
    The real fraud here is the EDD itself.
    Government “service”. What a colossal racket.

  5. John,

    So your approach is to penalize those that lose their job by NO FAULT on their part?

    That is the purpose of Unemployment Insurance, to protect those that did not do anything to deserve to be fired, right?

    No, you want to violate the exceptions of “at-will” employment in order to suppress earnings and create a “slave” class of workers.

    Realize there are clear exceptions regarding “at-will” employment and the are:

    “But there are several exceptions to the at-will employment rule that can allow an employee who loses his/her job to sue the employer under California wrongful termination laws. These exceptions to at-will employment in California are:

    An implied contract for continued employment;

    An implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing;

    Public policy; and

    Fraud/misrepresentation.

    However many like yourself try to say, so what or that, we don’t recognize these rules. And many have lost badly when confronted in court.

    Granted I am for the prosecution of any Fraud and Misrepresentation, especially the situation regarding EDD scams. But the real problem was that our system was not staffed or maintained in the way to PREVENT this problem. The reality is that the EDD gets practically no funding to provide the kind of staff to make sure the system is not vulnerable to these problems.

    But to attack the EDD in this situation which is so extreme that it is no in fact keeping our economy from total collapse is VERY dangerous. Imagine when say 3-4 million people wind up homeless, cannot get food or are in even more serious health danger, and in the end are unemployable because they don’t even have an address?

    All so many people are doing now is yelling at each other because they know they cannot do a “damn” thing to return to their way of life prior to the COVID problem, and it will take years for it to return.

  6. > But to attack the EDD in this situation which is so extreme that it is no in fact keeping our economy from total collapse is VERY dangerous. Imagine when say 3-4 million people wind up homeless, cannot get food or are in even more serious health danger, and in the end are unemployable because they don’t even have an address?

    I think the solution is to lock down businesses, prohibit outdoor dining, and arrest and fine people for not wearing masks.

    It’s worked every time it’s been tried.

  7. SJ,

    When the lockdown was done in March 2020 it DID stop the COVID from spreading, and you KNOW this. Upon reopening in July it took off again.

    Then the curse of the smoke caused infection rates to go down during August to October again reducing infection of COVID.

    But people like yourself simply say, “OK we won, we got COVID, like Donald trump during the election, the COVID threat is over”. Only to see it explode again.

    The EDD has been part of trying to avoid the real impact of COVID. Your purposely trying to put more people in harms way. Time for you and your friends to either admit you cannot solve the problem with COVID by just going back to normal. You brought up in another discussion that a person that WAS NOT an Epidemiologist.

    The formal declaration is ” The Rockefeller University releases statement concerning Knut Wittkowski April 13, 2020 ” (https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/27872-rockefeller-university-releases-statement-concerning-dr-knut-wittkowski/) and it stated:

    “The opinions that have been expressed by Knut Wittkowski, discouraging social distancing in order to hasten the development of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus, do not represent the views of The Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty.

    Wittkowski was previously employed by Rockefeller as a biostatistician. He has never held the title of professor at Rockefeller.”.

    What is interesting is he isn’t even a medical researcher his education is having Wittkowski, who holds two doctorates in computer science and medical biometry. He nothing but a statistician. He actually does no medical research but he uses statistics to make an argument. He also believes the coronavirus should be allowed to create “herd immunity,” and that short of a vaccine, the pandemic will only end after it has sufficiently spread through the population.

    Thus he wants to let the virus infect, permanently injure or kill as many people it can.

    This is such a bad example of junk science.

    This individual promotes that economics must override public health, and now is FIRED from the university.

    You describe yourself as “outside the box”, but that idea doesn’t work when it comes to public health, you remind me of Elizabeth Holmes and her actions to try to “fake it till you make it” regarding a medical device, and the fraud she is charged with currently.

  8. > “The opinions that have been expressed by Knut Wittkowski, . . . , do not represent the views of The Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty.

    Have you noticed what postmodernists have done to universities lately? Critical Race Theory? Oppression studies? Social Justice Activism?

    Having views that differ from the “leadership” or “faculty” of many universities is a sign of character, intelligence, common sense, and intellectual gravitas.

    If the Rockefeller University leadership disagrees with you, it’s probably a GOOD thing and not a BAD thing.

  9. SJ,

    The Rockefeller University obviously did NOT disagree with me. And in fact given the FIRED that person because he was promoting what the scientific consensus of what was necessary to prevent more infections, long term impairments and deaths.

    But unfortunately we have had people like Wittkowski promote unsafe behavior, like yourself, that has contributed to PROLONGING the economic problems due to COVID. Unfortunately there is a minority, a VERY small one of scientists that appear to encourage risk. They are NOT medical doctors from what I have seen but researchers. Probably because they do not swear an oath that requires PREVENTION in lieu of TREATMENT formally.

    In any event, you characterization of them being of “Having views that differ from the “leadership” or “faculty” of many universities is a sign of character, intelligence, common sense, and intellectual gravitas.” seems to be just you agreeing with them.

    So far these people have not produced any peer researched proof of the proposed course of actions they promote as being safe or valid at this time. All I can say is you have your beliefs, and such as being beliefs, no matter how valid scientific evidence can be presented to you, it will simply not matter, unfortunately.

    You still haven’t provided any SAFE alternative to move forward, right? Please provide one?

  10. Are the prisoners victims? It would be interesting to see whether jail and prison employees are involved. They have access to the inmates’ information.
    It is my understanding that all jail mail is read by jailers before being given to the prisoners.

  11. Robyn,

    I only discussed the COVID infections, but yes they are COVID victims especially where the constitution says they cannot be subject to “cruel and unusual” punishment, technically the corrections systems are responsible for their health. But the same is true for the corrections workers that are physically working inside these facilities.

    In the end PREVENTION in the practicing Medical Care standards is sworn to be the standard, and not letting people get sick even if you have a PROVEN cure.

    And I would not disagree that EVERYONE should be provided an EQUAL treatment regarding PREVENTION and TREATMENT of COVID, for EVERYONE.

  12. Why can’t EDD be provided with inmate rosters for state prisons and county and city jails and the list simply be cross checked against unlawful benefit requests? This is not rocket science.

  13. > You still haven’t provided any SAFE alternative to move forward, right? Please provide one?

    Gavin Newson hasn’t provided a SAFE alternative.

    Sara Cody hasn’t provided a SAFE alternative.

    Andrew Cuomo hasn’t provided a SAFE alternative.

    The belief that there is a SAFE alternative is a politician’s belief, not a scientific belief. Politicians believe their job is to “do something” so they will “have something to run on” for the next election.

    The scientific reality may very well be that there is no “SAFE” alternative. We live in a world that is full of risks, and politicians who promise mythical SAFE alternatives are , to put it kindly, OVERPROMISING.

    Coronavirus is a VIRUS. Viruses spread. It’s what viruses do.

    A virus is an evolved complex molecule that is optimized for using the cellular processes of a host organism to achieve it’s own replication. That’s its job: to replicate for the purpose of SPREADING.

    Coronavirus will spread UNTIL the population or host organisms has enough potential hosts with immunity that it can no longer spread: herd immunity.

    Public health measures like masks and social distancing, at best, slow down the rate of spread modesty. But at the end of the day, the same number of people will become infected (and then immune) whether the spread is fast or slow.

    The “safest” thing to do is to quarantine the most vulnerable (old people, compromised immune systems) and let nature take it’s course. The survival rate is 99.X percent.

    Slowing down the rate of spread just gives the virus more time to mutate into a different virus, and cause many, many undesirable health and social consequences.

    Some dangerous unintended consequences: suicide, despair, mental illness, missed medical diagnoses and treatments, educational deprivation, etc. etc. etc.

    Very smart people know this and have been saying this, but the political class has got the country on information lockdown to help Democrats get elected and defeat Trump.

    The fact that you don’t know this just shows how effective the information lockdown has been ON YOU!

  14. SJ,

    There you go supporting the idea that got a biostatistician FIRED.

    Them “political class” has no such thing as an “information lockdown” just look at the insane information being promoted by people like you and your friends. It is posted everywhere including here.

    And oh by the way, there are plenty of younger people getting sick and dying, so the premise of trying to find the “vulnerable” people and quarantining them does not work. Look at a good example “AIDS” was once called “GRID” which was Gay Related Immune Deficiency. In fact the only reason is it was called that was the “timeline” of first detection.

    First they thought if you quarantine the “GAYS” you could control the virus. But then the Hattians were detected thus then they said you should quarantine the Haitians. Then came the Hemophiliacs started getting it, what then you quarantine them too? Then came the organ transplant receivers, what you quarantine them too? Then the Blood transfusion patients, what you quarantine them too?

    You see the problem, that once an AIRBORNE virus can infect the inside of a public space, it means it must be sterilized, or forever be “quarantined” from public use, right? Maybe we should be taking air samples from all businesses to determine if the COVID is in them, and if so, shut them down until they are clean, right?

    That does seem logical, doesn’t it?

  15. Please the one thing we need to do is seek justice yes, but not become the same kind of people like SJOUTSIDETHEBUBBLE.

    Which in fact is not a real person but a linked blog, you can “click” his name on this page and it comes up here (https://sjoutsidethebubble.wordpress.com/). Basically a libertarian group, but true libertarians are very responsible people, they do not promote any conduct a person cannot be held accountable for. So please do not put SJ into that category, instead that group is another anarchist and provocateur group.

    I am surprised that the SJI has allowed such a practice. I don’t know whether there is a terms of use provision that allows it.

    In any case this poster is really multiple people posting via another website. This is the kind of behavior we need to get Section 230 of the Communications Act to be repealed. Accountability of your actions online must be fully restored.

  16. > Please the one thing we need to do is seek justice yes, but not become the same kind of people like SJOUTSIDETHEBUBBLE.

    > I am surprised that the SJI has allowed such a practice. I don’t know whether there is a terms of use provision that allows it.

    > This is the kind of behavior we need to get Section 230 of the Communications Act to be repealed.

    I’m just a tiny little inconsequential pissant.

    Why is Goldstein trying to get the government to crush me?

    And, by the way, this is Jennifer’s saloon.

    Who the hell is Goldstein to bust in here and tell her who she needs to throw out?

  17. SJOUTSIDETHEBUBBLE,

    WOW!

    I am not crushing you, but I want anyone who posts writings to be held accountable for their content.

    The First Amendment does not say you cannot be held accountable for your conduct, the “crying fire in the crowded theater example”

    Who is Jennifer?

    In any case, obviously you know you are guilty of something, and hopefully we will make it so no more anonymous postings that support irresponsible behaviors, like the assault on the Capitol, will be without proper accountability.

    Interesting you play the victim, when you online assault anyone that simply fact checks and disagrees with you.

  18. > In any case, obviously you know you are guilty of something,

    How do you know that I know this?

    Does your assessment of my state of mind come with a warranty?

    If your assessment is defective, are you liable? How do I collect? And, how much?

  19. SJOUTSIDETHE BUBBLE,

    Your continually attempt to attack others having a different point of view is a good example. Especially since you constantly try to make it personal.

    Again in any event I love the following:

    “I didn’t plan it but it does seem to be appropriate.

    Parler is being taken off Apple app store, and Google Play.

    Also

    AMAZON hosts the servers of Parler, they are dropping the contract for the services, most likely refunding the payments made to Parler, and then dropping the servers for them. They will go offline sometime around Sunday.

    This service was just a tool to enable cult thought and belief reinforcement because it declared itself as free from “fact checking”. It became nothing but a cyber “cave” where only those that believed in a certain point of view were allowed in and also constantly fed and encouraged to act out in intolerable ways.

    WOW!

    But given what happened in the Capitol, it seems a good thing.

    These are PRIVATE companies not subject to the First Amendment.

    Parler is going to have to buy and maintain their owned data services. And they are going to have to find a way to market their services independently from Google and Apple.

    OR

    They might just be out of business.

  20. If DA Rosen is going medieval on EDD crime, can one assume that Rosen believes that most of the perpetrators are white?

  21. > Santa Clara Co. DA Jeff Rosen Cracks Down on EDD Fraud

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/california-covid-19-benefits-fraud-could-reach-9-8-billion/2446582/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand

    California COVID-19 Benefits Fraud Could Reach $9.8 Billion

    – – – – – – –

    Don’t worry, California. Gavin Newsom and Jeff Rosen are on the case.

    Those crooks aren’t going to get away with this and Democrat public officials up and down the state are going to make sure that every last nickel of fraud is identified and returned to tax payers.

    Why are you looking at me like that?

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